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single yellow lines with kerb markings, bryn st

Started by: whups (13258) 



can you park on any single yellow lines with kerb markings on them if you have a blue badge ? . on bryn st in ashton they have these markings outside boutique dentist & across the road . iv,e google earthed bryn st & the post has 2 plates on it , 1 with yellow background with blue trim & another white . both display times but it only adds to the confusion ? . iv,e asked several people & even the council & i cant get any sense out of any of them ? . does anyone know ? .

Started: 22nd Feb 2024 at 15:28

Posted by: First Mate (2384)

Yellow lines
Badge holders may park on single or double yellow lines for up to 3 hours, but in general not where there are restrictions on loading or unloading – indicated by yellow kerb dashes and / or signs on plates. You may wish to check whether a particular local council has chosen to exempt Blue Badge holders from this restriction.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 15:32

Posted by: whups (13258) 

rang wigan council 1st mate but could,nt get a straight answer ? .thanx anyway .

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 15:35

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15401)







Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 15:50

Posted by: tomplum (12495) 

Whups, Do as everyone does, just park up , I've not seen a warden in Ashton for decades,,,

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 18:42

Posted by: gaffer (7966) 

Tom

There’s been one going around Ashton this week.

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 19:19

Posted by: JR (526)

The lines referred to indicate limited loading to particular timing and should be advised by local signage. I think this assures good movement of traffic in certain periods of the day.
This quite reasonable if you compare to cities. Take London for instance. I moved my daughter Greenwich and outside the apartments the small area where loading was allowed was just 20 minutes during a particular time of the day. I had to park on a small retail park nearby for quite a while then quickly unload everything onto the pavement. My daughter had to guard the furniture etc until I could park up somewhere else (my limit on the retail had expired). Absolute nightmare... try to find limited parking in Greenwich! If you choose any carpark then I can advise that even Dick Turpin wore a mask before robbing you!

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 19:39

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Whups you cannot park on Gerard street Bryn Street or the bottom of Wigan road.They all have yellow lines with kerb markings. I asked years ago about parking outside of the un/loading times and I was told NO and if I did would get a parking ticket

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 20:14

Posted by: tomplum (12495) 

Gaffer , I'm glad to hear that because, I've seen cars parked up using the takeaways, on Gerard St, In Bryn St using the chicken shop and Post office and generally paying no heed to yellow lines, Zic zag lines and pavements, I wish we had one in Poolstock lane, The operator would be rich in an hour,

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 21:34

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

People park in Garswood Street and moan if they get a ticket. It is 1 hour parking and a lot ignore this time limit

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 21:41

Posted by: whups (13258) 

looking at the plates there,s a gap on the white one from 9-30 am to 4-00 pm so can anyone explain that ? .

Replied: 22nd Feb 2024 at 23:47

Posted by: Owd Codger (3100)

Type in 'Road markings - THE HIGHWAY CODE' on the internet and all lines on the roads and streets are explained, but only in English which might be a reason for many motorists not knowing what some of the lines mean or in the case of the many who understand English, not wanting to know or obey!

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 07:42
Last edited by Owd Codger: 23rd Feb 2024 at 07:45:17

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Whups vehicles CANNOT un/load during the Peak times but could un/load during the other times. The top plate is when parking restrictions are in place 7-30am till 6-30pm you can park there before or after these times. Its a double edged sword you have to be well up on not only the highway code but also any restrictions the local council may have in place. Some places will allow you to un/load continuous up to 11-00am then for 40 mins after that time and other places have the 40 minutes limit in place all the time. Cars are observed for 5mins and business vehicles for 10 mins to make sure they are being un/loaded

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 07:58
Last edited by PeterP: 23rd Feb 2024 at 08:07:44

Posted by: whups (13258) 

peter went this morn & parked outside the door of the dentist at 11-30 . vans were parking half on the kerb outside the shops in bryn st while i was there . at least 2 vans where there doing their business & no one bothered me or them while i was in the dentist . i left around 12-20 .

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 14:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15401)

Whupsy

The top plate states that Bryn Street is a clearway from 7.30am - 6.30pm so no stopping or parking during those ours, however loading and unloading is allowed on clearways.

The location in question is the stretch of street in between the ZigZag lines at the Pedestrian Crossing and the start of the double yellow lines further up towards the junction with Gerard Street, on that stretch there are three shops and a dentist, but if there were no restriction on loading and unloading at busy times, deliveries to those businesses would cause chaos, so that is what the other plate on the post is about, that bans loading and unloading between the peak traffic times of 7.30am - 9.30am and 4.00pm and 6.30pm and the single yellow line and one mark on the kerb, denotes restrictions to loading and unloading, which will be described on a post at the side of the road in question

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 15:14

Posted by: whups (13258) 

so what about the time inbetween 9-30 & 4-00 ? .

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 15:19

Posted by: First Mate (2384)

No parking as it says in the top plate

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 15:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15401)

No, on an Urban Clearway it means no stopping

What is the difference between no stopping and no parking ?

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 15:47

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15401)

Whupsy

"so what about the time inbetween 9-30 & 4-00 ?"

In between 9.30am and 4.00pm it is an Urban Clearway and therefore no stopping is allowed, and that includes blue badge holders LINK although you can load and unload, pick up or drop someone off, but you have to be with the vehicle, and it must clearly be being used for loading and unloading

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 15:58
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 23rd Feb 2024 at 16:00:03

Posted by: Domin0 (626)

The Home Office is set to abolish the last few traffic wardens. They had long lost the job of doling out tickets to the drably named "civil enforcement officers", writes Gareth Rubin.

The traffic warden - long the subject of mockery and ire from disgruntled motorists up and down the land - will soon be no more. The Home Office is removing the functions of the final few wardens in England and Wales and rolling their work into that done by police staff volunteers.

The first police traffic wardens were created in 1960 under the Road Traffic Act but since local councils took over the punishment of illegal parking with their own civil enforcement officers, their numbers have fallen to just 18 in England and Wales. They were abolished in Scotland in 2014. The remaining traffic wardens are 10 in Sussex, five in Greater Manchester, and one each in Hampshire, Northamptonshire and West Yorkshire.

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 15:59

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

TTS the top plate has a single red line cutting across which normally a blue background and means no parking a clearway sign is a red (X)cross over a blue background

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 20:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15401)

PeterP

There are two types of Clearway, a Clearway and an Urban Clearway, a standard Clearway means no stopping at any time, and it is denoted by the red circle and cross on a blue background like you describe, and an example of a standard Clearway is the dual carriage way from the old bottom island at Marus Bridge to the top island at Marus Bridge.

Bryn Street is an Urban Clearway which allows stopping and other stuff at different times and is denoted by the red circle and a diagonal single red line on a blue background.

LINK

Replied: 23rd Feb 2024 at 20:27

 

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